Councilman Ben Gray sat down with Surreal Media Lab’s Creative Director Jason R. Fischer to have a real talk about investing money in Omaha, how politics works in the city, and some of his favorites albums of all time.

Hear him talk about the answer to these questions and MORE!

Why did I run again?

Do I support new/younger candidates?

Is legacy important to me?

Follow this in-depth conversation and learn more than you ever knew before about Ben, from his childhood troubles to learning why he was reluctant to run for one more term. Learn about his journey of finding the next phase, and finding the hope that is growing here, and see that there are still important things left to do.